. The End You are listening to the Hour of the Time. I'm William Cooper. Ladies and gentlemen, on March the 5th, 1992, CNN interviewed me for two hours. Let me say that again so that you'll get the whole gist of what you're going to hear. I was interviewed by a camera crew from CNN for two hours on March the 5th, 1992. Tonight you're going to hear the first hour of that interview. Tomorrow night you'll hear the second hour. What they finally aired was just one soundbite taken out of context. And while you're listening, tomorrow night, see if you can figure out what that might have been. So, without further ado, make sure you have pen and paper. And you might want to pay close attention so that you'll understand that my basic message has never changed over all the years. The only thing that's basically changed is the fact that I no longer believe that extraterrestrials are real or that they've ever visited this earth. I believe the whole thing is a scam. I believe it is a concoction, the greatest hoax, probably besides the Apollo space program, that has ever existed on this earth. The purpose is to create an artificial alien threat to this world to help hasten the formation of a one-world totalitarian socialist government. I'm very reluctant to believe what anybody tells me anymore. But have you developed an intuitive sense perhaps? You know how that can do? It can start shutting you down from certain experiences or certain places where you might need to be. That's true. And to a certain extent, I have an intuitive sense of where somebody's coming from. But it doesn't always work. You know, that's what makes a con man a good con man. You get the perception that they're telling you the truth. Okay. And so someone who's really good at it. Right. Could smell you. Or me, anyway. Okay. Okay. Hold on one second. Let me grab one. Okay. You want to wipe your face or anything? Okay. Yeah. Okay. You all right, Robert? Mm-hmm. Robert, you're set? He has a name. Scott, you're set? Yes. Bill, you're ready? Yep. Bill, well, thanks for agreeing to the interview. First of all, a little bit about your background. You had extensive military service for many years prior to 1970 where a certain aspect of that military service kicked upstairs. So you were able to see certain things that you were not able to see beforehand. Would you tell us a little bit about that? It actually started much longer in my path than that. I was reared in a military family. My father's an Air Force colonel. He's retired now. He was a command pilot. And as a child, I remember sitting around the, I remember the pilots at our house sitting around the kitchen table talking about their exploits in the cockpit and what they had seen in the skies. And some of that talk involved UFOs and what some of them called Foo Fighters. And I traveled all over the world, lived on a military basis for most of my life. I was really an indoctrinated individual, you might say. I was as establishment as you could get. As gung-ho, pro-government, pro-America, pro-military. And that's why I went into the military. Because that had been so much of my life. I went into the Air Force. I was in the Strategic Air Command for four years as an aircraft and missile hydraulic technician, which is, I worked on the pneumatic and hydraulic systems of B-52 bombers, KC-135 aircraft, and Minuteman missiles. I had a secret security clearance. That's where I saw my first atomic bomb. I mean, we worked around on these planes, especially the ones on the alert pad, were always loaded, ready to go drop these bombs at a moment's notice. But while I was in the Air Force, I met sergeants, men who were older than me and had been in the Air Force for quite a while, told me that they had participated in projects that had recovered crashed extraterrestrial craft, what you call UFOs. And they never told these stories, unless they'd had quite a bit to drink. So I never really believed it. I thought, well, these guys are running a scam on me. You know, even though I'd heard about these things when I was a kid, I just still didn't believe it. But this is so far out in left field, it's not something that you really give any serious thought to until something personal happens, which came later. When I left the Air Force, I went into the Navy, which is really where I wanted to be in the first place. I'd always had this tremendous feeling and connection with the ocean. I was an excellent swimmer. But I had a problem as a child. I had chronic motion sickness. I got in a car and we went on a long trip. I got deathly ill. And same with boats. I couldn't ride on the things at the carnival that went around and around because it just made me tremendously ill. But I decided after I had gone through the Air Force experience that, sick or not, I was going to go in the Navy because that's really what I had wanted to do. So I did, volunteered for submarine duty and was assigned to the USS Tyru SS-416, which was a diesel-electric boat, World War II type, that had been reconfigured. When I went on board the boat, it was in the dry dock at Pearl Harbor, a shipyard, and it had literally been cut in half and they had put in a 12-foot sonar section. And then three domes from the deck were triangulating targets using sonar. And this was really one of the most up-to-date electronically submarines that we had. It wasn't a nuclear submarine, but as far as the ability to approach, get close to a target and destroy it, it had a better capacity to do that than any other boat that we had. While we were on a transit from the Portland, Seattle area, on the surface, I actually saw, I was the port lookout, and I saw the most incredible thing that I think I've ever seen in my life. And it had such a profound effect upon my view of the universe and the world that we live in, that I wish everybody could experience this. I saw, come up out of the ocean, from beneath the surface of the sea, a huge disc-shaped craft about the size of a midway class aircraft carrier, which is tremendous in size. Even though that's one of our smallest carriers there was then, it's still a huge, tremendously big object. Came up out of the ocean and rose into the air and tumbled over its axis and went up into the cloud. And I was awestruck, dumbstruck. And, I mean, dumbstruck. Literally, I could not utter a sound. And my first impulse was to tell the officer the deck that I see the flying saucer. And then, luckily for me, I couldn't talk. Because, on second thought, that's not what I really wanted to say. Because I didn't want to be the only Looney Tunes character on a submarine with a tight-knit crew that you had to live close quarters with. Because that's a hell of a way to live. So, I told the officer deck that I'd seen something about 15 degrees off the port bow at a relative distance of about two and a half dollar miles. And he began to look in that area. And the starboard lookout had heard me tell him this. And he began to look over there. And while we were all three watching, either the same craft or another one exactly like it came down out of the clouds, tumbled again on its... Why it did this maneuver, I don't know. But every single time it did it. Like it came down and did that attitude. And then it flipped over and then entered the water. And the water just appeared to open up in front of it. It's just like the account in the Bible about the parting of the Red Sea. That's exactly what happened. The sea actually parted. And they put it into the water and it closed up behind it. And this big spray went up into the air. But it wasn't a spray from the craft hitting the water. It was a spray from the water coming back in to fill up this hole that had been created. And again, you know, I think this is incredible. What are we looking at here? It was metal. It was a machine. And it wasn't glowing or anything like that. It didn't have any lights on it that we could see. But it was obviously metal. And it was obviously a machine. And although I can't tell you that there was anywhere inside of it, I believe that there was. And it did something that, as far as I knew, was absolutely impossible. I'd been in the Air Force. I'd worked on the state of the art of our aviation capabilities. And here I was on the deck of a submarine in the conning tower. And I knew what we had to be able to have to go underwater. And I knew that the two were incompatible. Here's something that came from under the water and flew in the air and performed maneuvers. And then came back down and interfaced with the water at tremendous speed and remained intact. Which, realistically, it never touched the water. The water sort of magically opened up in front of it. But something had to interface with that water. Anything that we had that interfaced with the water in that manner would have been disintegrated. It's like hitting a brick wall. So I was looking at a technology that, as far as our laws of physics and what we knew at that time, didn't exist. This was in 1966. And Ensign Ball was as shocked as I was. He called the captain to the bridge. He came up with the chief quartermaster who brought a camera. And we all stood there and watched this occur over and over again for about ten minutes. And I still, to this day, don't know if it was the same craft or a whole bunch of different craft going in and out of the water. But it seemed like that there was a hell of a lot of traffic on that freeway right there. And we were watching it as we went by. We never changed course. We never lowered or increased our speed. We made no attempt to communicate or signal. We made no attempt to get closer. And eventually, it just stopped. We were told not to discuss it with anyone, not even amongst ourselves, which was incredible. I never had been told anything like that in my life. You know, you can't talk about something. And to be told that we couldn't even talk about it amongst ourselves was even more extraordinary, I thought. But we didn't. We didn't talk about it. When we got to Pearl Harbor, oh, all the time, the chief quartermaster was taking pictures of this. So I know photographs were made. What happened to those photographs, I have no idea. But when we reached Pearl Harbor, we were not allowed to go ashore to go on liberty, even though we didn't have the duty. And about two hours after we berthed at the submarine base, a commander for the Office of Naval Intelligence came on board and debriefed each one of us individually in the captain's stateroom. And the ultimate outcome of the debriefing was that we didn't see anything, we didn't hear anything, and we had to read rules and regulations that told us that if we ever talked about what it was that we didn't see, that we could be imprisoned, we could be fined $10,000, we could lose all paying allowances, do whatever to become due. And I learned at that moment that the United States Navy didn't want anybody to know about what we saw. And that severe consequences could come down around the neck of anybody who did. And that was when I understood fully that, yeah, there's a real cover-up. These things do exist, number one. And at least the United States Navy doesn't want anybody to know about it. And there's penalties for anybody who bucks that. Moving forward a few years from, what, 1966, you gained a special security clearance that revealed to you certain documents or were revealed to you or that you saw relating to this very cover-up. To this and many other things. I was eventually trained by Naval Security and Intelligence. Well, folks, I just determined that we had one of the wrong buttons pressed on this console, so we're going to start this whole thing all over again. And you'll be glad that we did, believe me. Thank you. Thank you. Here we go. I'm as happy as you. Okay, now we've got everything together. This is an interview conducted with me by CNN in March of 1992. What they eventually ran was about five minutes of the two hours that you're about to hear. If you're media savvy, you'll be able to pick out what they ran and what they didn't run. And what they tried to make me look like rather than what I really was and what my message really was. So, you know, this is for your entertainment, for those of you who won't believe a word of it. And for your education, for those who will be determined to go out and check and research what you're going to hear. And for the rest of you, it really doesn't make any difference. Well, it's been my attitude. Now my attitude is, I just don't want that to happen anymore. It's true. I'm very reluctant to believe what anybody tells me anymore. But have you developed an intuitive sense perhaps now? You know how that can do? It can start shutting you down from certain experiences or certain places where you might need to be. That's true. And to a certain extent, I have an intuitive sense of where somebody's coming from. But it doesn't always work. You know, that's what makes a con man a good con man. You get the perception that they're telling you the truth. Okay. So someone who's really good at it. Right. Could smell you. Or me, anyway. Hold on one second. You want to wipe your face or anything? Yeah. Let's see it. You all right, Robert? Mm-hmm. Robert, you're set? Yes, I am. Scott, you're set? Yes. Bill, you ready? Yeah. Bill, well, thanks for agreeing to the interview. First of all, a little bit about your background. You had extensive military service for many years prior to 1970 where a certain aspect of that military service kicked upstairs. So you were able to see certain things that you were not able to see beforehand. Would you tell us a little bit about that? Yeah. It actually started much longer in my past than that. I was reared in a military family. My father's an Air Force colonel. He's retired now. He's a command pilot. And as a child, I remember sitting around the pilots at our house sitting around the kitchen table talking about their exploits in the cockpit and what they had seen in the skies. And some of that talk involved UFOs and what some of them called foo fighters. And I traveled all over the world. I lived on a military basis for most of my life. I was really an indoctrinated individual, you might say. I was as establishment as you could get as gung-ho, pro-government, pro-America, pro-military. And that's why I went into the military, because that had been so much of my life. I went into the Air Force. I was in the Strategic Air Command for four years as an aircraft and missile hydraulic technician, which is I worked on the pneumatic and hydraulic systems of B-52 bombers, KC-135 aircraft, and Minuteman missiles. I had a secret security clearance. That's where I saw my first atomic bomb. I mean, we worked around on these planes, especially the ones on the alert pad, were always loaded, ready to go drop these bombs at a moment's notice. But while I was in the Air Force, I met sergeants, men who were older than me and had been in the Air Force for quite a while, told me that they had participated in projects that had recovered crashed extraterrestrial craft, what you call UFOs. And they never told these stories unless they had quite a bit to drink. So I never really believed it. I thought, well, these guys are running a scam on me. You know, even though I'd heard about these things when I was a kid, I just still didn't believe in them. But this is so far out in left field, it's not something that you really give any serious thought to until something personal happens, which came later. When I left the Air Force, I went into the Navy, which is really where I wanted to be in the first place. I'd always had this tremendous feeling and connection with the ocean. I was an excellent swimmer. But I had a problem as a child. I had chronic motion sickness. I got in a car and we went on a long trip. I got deathly ill. The same with boats or anything. I couldn't ride on the things at the carnival that went around and around because it just made me tremendously ill. But I decided after I had gone through the Air Force experience that, sick or not, you know, I was going to go in the Navy because that's really what I had wanted to do. So I did, volunteered for submarine duty and was assigned to the USS Tyru SS-416, which was a diesel electric boat, World War II type, that had been reconfigured. When I went on board the boat, it was in the dry dock at Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard and had literally been cut in half. They put in a 12-foot sonar section and then three domes on the deck were triangulating targets using sonar. And this was really one of the most up-to-date electronically submarines that we had. It wasn't a nuclear submarine. But as far as the ability to approach, get close to a target and destroy it, it had a better capacity to do that than any other boat that we had. While we were on a transit from the Portland, Seattle area, on the surface, I actually saw, I was the port lookout, and I saw the most incredible thing that I think I've ever seen in my life. And it had such a profound effect upon my view of the universe and the world that we live in that I wish everybody could experience this. I saw, I saw, come up out of the ocean, from beneath the surface of the sea, a huge disc-shaped craft about the size of a midway class aircraft carrier, which is tremendous in size. Even though that's one of our smallest carriers there was then, it's still a huge, tremendously big object. Came up out of the ocean and rose into the air and tumbled over to Texas and went up into the clouds. And I was awestruck, dumbstruck. And I mean dumbstruck, literally, I could not utter a sound. My first impulse was to tell the officer the deck that I see a flaring saucer. And luckily for me, I couldn't talk. Because on second thought, that's not what I really wanted to say. Because I didn't want to be the only Looney Tunes character on a submarine with a tight-knit crew that you have to live close quarters with. Because that's, that's a hell of a way to live. So I told the officer the deck that I'd seen something about 15 degrees off the port bow at a relative distance of about two and a half nautical miles. And he began to look in that area. And the starboard lookout had heard me tell him this. And he began to look over there. And while we were all three watching, either the same craft or another one exactly like it came down out of the clouds. Tumbled again. And that's why it did this maneuver. I don't know. But every single time it did it. Like it came down in this attitude. And then it flipped over and then entered the water. And the water just appeared to open up in front of it. It's just like the account in the Bible about the parting of the Red Sea. That's exactly what happened. The sea actually parted. And this thing flew into the water and it closed up behind it. And this big spray went up into the air. But it wasn't a spray from the craft hitting the water. It was a spray from the water coming back in to fill up this hole that had been created. And again, you know, I think this is incredible. What are we looking at here? And it was metal. It was a machine. And it wasn't glowing or anything like that. It didn't have any lights on it that we could see. But it was obviously metal. And it was obviously a machine. And although I can't tell you that there was anyone inside of it, I believe that there was. And it did something that, as far as I knew, was absolutely impossible. I'd been in the Air Force. I'd worked on the state of the art of our aviation capabilities. And here I was on the deck of a submarine in the conning tower. And I knew what we had to be able to have to go underwater. And I knew that the two were incompatible. Here's something that came from under the water and flew in the air and performed maneuvers. And then came back down and interfaced with the water at tremendous speed and remained intact. Which, realistically, it never touched the water. The water sort of magically opened up in front of it. But something had to interface with that water. Anything that we had that interfaced with the water in that manner would have been disintegrated. It's like hitting a brick wall. So I was looking at a technology that, as far as our laws of physics and what we knew at that time, didn't exist. This was in 1966. And Enson Ball was as shocked as I was. He called the captain to the bridge. He came up with the chief portmaster who brought a camera. And we all stood there and watched this occur over and over again for about ten minutes. And I still, to this day, don't know if it was the same craft or a whole bunch of different craft going in and out of the water. But it seemed like there was a hell of a lot of traffic on that freeway right there. And we were watching it as we went by. We never changed course. We never lowered or increased our speed. We made no attempt to communicate or signal. We made no attempt to get closer. And eventually, it just stopped. We were told not to discuss it with anyone, not even amongst ourselves, which was incredible. I never had been told anything like that in my life. You can't talk about something. And to be told that we couldn't even talk about it amongst ourselves was even more extraordinary, I thought. But we didn't. We didn't talk about it. When we got to Pearl Harbor, oh, all the time the chief portmaster was taking pictures of this. So I know photographs were made. What happened to those photographs, I have no idea. But when we reached Pearl Harbor, we were not allowed to go ashore to go on liberty, even though we didn't have the duty. And about two hours after we berthed at the submarine base, a commander for the Office of Naval Intelligence came on board and debriefed each one of us individually in the captain's stateroom. And the ultimate outcome of the debriefing was that we didn't see anything, we didn't hear anything, and we had to read rules and regulations that told us that if we ever talked about what it was that we didn't see, that we could be imprisoned, we could be fined $10,000, we could lose all paying allowances, do whatever to become due. And I learned at that moment that the United States Navy didn't want anybody to know about what we saw and that severe consequences could come down around the neck of anybody who did. And that was when I understood fully that, yeah, there's a real cover-up. These things do exist, number one, and at least the United States Navy doesn't want anybody to know about it. And there's stiff penalties for anybody who bucks that. Moving forward a few years from, what, 1966, you gained a special security clearance that revealed to you certain documents or were revealed to you or that you saw relating to this very cover-up. To this and many other things. I was eventually trained by Naval Security and Intelligence, and I was given a secondary NEC, which is Naval Enlisted Code, which was 9545, which is internal security specialist. And an internal security specialist is someone who protects classified information, protects areas, so to speak. And I had a specialty, which I was trained in, which was Pacific Area Intelligence Briefings. And I was basically assigned to the Commander-in-Chief of the United States Pacific Fleet, who was Admiral Bernard Clary at that time, and served as a member of his intelligence briefing team. And basically all that means, we really had a wonderful job. You come in about 4 o'clock in the morning, and you go through all the message traffic and all, everything. And what you do is, what we did was we prepared an updated briefing on everything that was happening in his half of the world, which he commanded the Naval Forces and Marine Forces, as a matter of fact. And put all this together in a briefing where we would update him on ongoing operations, brief him about operations that were scheduled to begin, political situations, deployment of Soviet forces, naval forces, everything. And after the briefing was finished, between 8 and 10 o'clock in the morning, then we were done. You know, we were finished. So it was what you call fat cat duty or, you know, duty in the Navy. It's got all different kinds of names. It's just really a wonderful job. Now, to be able to function in this job, I had to have a security clearance, which gave me access to the information that I had the need to know to help prepare these briefings. And when I first was assigned to the command, I was attached to the OPSCAT office under Lieutenant Commander Mercado, which was operational status reporting. And while I waited for my security clearance. And it took six months to get it. What I eventually ended up with was a top secret queue clearance with an STI attachment, which means sensitive compartmentalized information. And there were no blocks. In other words, there was nothing combining me to only certain compartmentalized information. I had access to whatever the Admiralty staff had access to because we had to prepare briefings and brief these people on all of these things. And I'm sure that at first I was tested and wasn't shown a whole lot. But eventually, when they began to have confidence in me, I began to see things coming across my desk that were just absolutely incredible. And a lot of it is really hard to talk about because it's so far outside the normal concept of reality for the average American that they're going to find a hard time believing any of it. But I saw documents that were labeled under the classification top secret and the compartmentalized compartment that that was put into. It was called MAJIC, M-A-J-I-C, which told me that UFOs are real, which I already knew. I'd seen work. But this went farther than that. It told me that they were extraterrestrial in origin, that there were four different extraterrestrial species or races visiting this earth, and that they had actually entered into an agreement with the United States government with one of these species of alien beings to exchange technology. And it told me all the projects that was underneath this. Project Red Light was actually the testing of extraterrestrial craft. Project Plato was a diplomatic project. Pounce was the recovery of technology. Pluto was the application of that technology to our own secret space program, not the public space program. There are two different space programs. One is what the public gets to see, which is overseen by NASA. And the other one is a secret space program that nobody gets to see, which is really overseen by the Navy Department under specialized compartmentalized black projects. And what these people are doing in secret is just absolutely incredible. I also saw documents under an operation called Operation Majority, which outlined the plans to bring together a one-world government. It also included extraterrestrial information within that. Project Grudge, which was the second project. First was signed, and then Project Grudge, which contained all of the extraterrestrial information up to a certain point. I forget the year cutoff. And then it was contained after that in another project called Project Aquarius, which was the accumulation of the whole history of alien interaction on planet Earth. But I have to say at this point that I don't know if those documents were really telling the truth or not. They could have been showing me these things so that eventually I would go out and talk about this. And maybe that will become clear to you later why they may have done it. It could be real. At this point, from a personal standpoint, what was it that, you know, based on your experience in 66, and they said, do not, absolutely do not reveal this to anybody. And here we are a few years later, and you're seeing documents that prove that you saw what you saw was real. What was the one factor or a number of factors that led you to the decision to say, I've got to get this out. I've got to tell people about this. I saw contingency plans called Majestic. And these contingency plans were to, well, first place, a contingency is a plan that can be implemented if certain things occur. And the certain things that would have tripped this contingency plan are, number one, the public sector is getting too close to the truth. So they have to implement this to get them steered off the track. Or, number two, we don't want to tell the public the truth about the alien presence, but there's so much alien activity occurring that the public is on the verge of finding out anyway. Let's tell them this story so that it doesn't cause consequences that we don't want. And that plan was called Majestic. I was in a bookstore one time. I'd never seen UFO Magnum. I didn't even know it exists. In fact, I didn't even know that there was a UFO culture in the world of people who study UFOs or worship UFOs or have little UFO meetings. I had no idea that that was occurring. I was in a bookstore one time, and I was looking at the magazine rack. I'm an avid reader. I'm always in bookstores. And this one day, I saw a magazine just popped right out at me. It's a UFO. And I picked it up, and I looked inside, and here is Majestic. All right there. And even the people who had been named to implement the plan were the ones who were actually implementing it. William Moore, Stanton Friedman. I'd never heard of Jamie Chanderet, but he was named, and they had brought out a supposed genuine document called the Eisenhower Briefing Document, which in reality is a fraudulent document. It's a fake. And it was created to implement the plan Majestic to either indoctrinate the public on what the government wants the public to perceive as happening or to steer researchers away from the truth or both. So this wasn't revealing the plan of Majestic, but it was actually implementing the plan. Implementing the plan against the public. It was a psychological operation against the public. This is what you saw. So, immediately, my head began to spin around. I began to think, God, you know, I've got to tell people that they're being manipulated. This is a lie. And really, if the public were using their own intellect, they would know that it was a lie. The executive order quoted for this document was 92,000-something. I believe it was 924,447, which is 92,447. And it was supposedly written by Truman. But Truman never wrote an executive order higher than 9,000. I mean, even today, there's no executive order with the number 92,000 on it. They've been consecutive since the beginning. So it was clearly fraudulent. So it's clearly fraudulent. But the public doesn't catch on to this. And here you've got Stanton Friedman, one of the guys who implemented the contingency plan, Majestic, running around the country telling everybody it's not an executive order. It's a date, September 24, 1947, which it very well could be a date. But it's listed in that document as being an executive order of the President of the United States, Terry Truman. And because of that, it's fake. And many other things. But specifically, that is the most glaring proof of fraudulent intent in the document. There are many other things in the document that also prove it's a forgery. But here they are. They're running this contingency plan. And here I am. I know all about it. And here's the public out there biting it. They even ran that thing in the New York Times of like a two- or three-page spread showing all the documents. So it had tremendous credibility lent to it by that action. And so I decided that I had to tell the public and get people in the right track, which is the right track is don't believe anybody. Don't believe me. Don't believe George Bush. Don't believe anyone. You've got to go out and you've got to get proof in your hand before you can believe anything. And to do otherwise today is the biggest mistake that anyone can ever make. You begin believing people, putting your trust in them that they're telling you the truth, guarantee you you're going to take a ride on a roller coaster you don't want to be on. Now this controversy, and I'd say the very understatement controversy, it also is now extending, based on some things that you're revealing, into the Kennedy assassination. Yes. Yes. In the set of documents, which really was literally two or three file cabinets of documents, called Operation Majority. I saw documents which told me what happened in Dallas and why. And basically what these documents said was that the intelligence community felt that John F. Kennedy was a threat to the national security, which translated into reality means was a threat to the New World Order, the one world government, which they were actively in the process of forming. Was there anything on record that indicated that he was out to, well, things that he did would threaten that New World Order? Oh, absolutely. He had written an executive order. I don't remember the exact number now, but it's available to anybody who wants to go look it up. He had written an executive order ordering the printing of United States notes, which would have broken the back of the Federal Reserve, which is one of the major instruments of propelling the United States into the New World Order by destroying our economy, the basis upon which we live. The basis upon which our whole society is founded is being ripped right out from the news. That was one. Number two, he refused to provide air support for the evasion of Bay of Pigs, which ensured that that would be a failure. He had threatened publicly on several occasions to disband the CIA and scatter it to the thousand winds. He had ordered, in the documents that I saw, he had ordered the intelligence community to prepare a plan to disclose the truth about UFOs to the public. Now, I don't know what that truth was. It could be that maybe there are no extraterrestrials. But whatever the truth was, he had ordered a plan to be prepared that that disclosure was going to be done according to that plan within the following year. And the intelligence community considered that to be out of the question. And according to the documents that I saw, his assassination was ordered by the policy committee of the Bilderberg Group, which is really the secret world government, and was carried out by agents of Division 5 of the FBI, the Secret Service, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the Office of Naval Intelligence, of which I was a part in Dallas. And it said that the assassin, the man who actually administered the head wound, was the driver of the car, William Greer, a Secret Service agent, who used an assassination pistol built by the CIA for assassinations. It was really an air gun that fired an exploding pellet or could fire a small hypodermic needle or a poison dart using any one of many different deadly poisons. Specifically, it said that he fired an exploding pellet which contained shellfish toxin and that the act was plainly visible in a film withheld from the public. I looked for 16 years to find that film, and I finally found a copy that showed William Greer to turn around and shoot the president. And since 1988, I've been showing that film wherever I'm able to show it to wake people up. It is not our government, though you have to understand, that is doing these things. It is not our government that's failing us. It's not the Constitution or the Bill of Rights that's a bad instrument. It is a group of men who belong to secret societies, who have infiltrated our society and our government at all levels, and are destroying it and subverting it from within. And every member of naval intelligence that I knew who was an officer was a 32nd or 33rd degree Freemason. And I asked my commanding officer at one point, I said, why are all you guys Masons? He said, Masons are used to keeping secrets. It's part of their fraternity. So if you want someone who already knows how to keep a secret, you recruit Freemasons. Well, later on, I found out what the truth is. The truth is, is you're not going to be a naval intelligence officer unless you are a Freemason. Or a member of the ancient order that rose across, but you have to be high degrees for that. I think the reason I was selected and listened to it is because I had belonged to the Demolite Society, which is why I was a teenager. That's sort of the first level of Freemasonry. That's how they recruit teenagers and indoctrinate them into their principles so that they go right into Freemasonry when they become an adult. So, basically, that's the story. Okay. Well, based on the information that you're revealing, which would seem to be equally or if not more of a threat than what Kennedy was originally planning on doing, is actually revealing the underlying cause of all of this, why is it that you are here today or how is it that you are here today and you're not conveniently taken away and put in a padded cell somewhere so that you can't speak of these things? Well, I really don't know the true answer to that question because you would have to ask them to find out why. They haven't done anything. But I can tell you this. I began to reveal information in 1976 and I was physically attacked on two occasions. My skull was caved in. That's what all these scars are here. On the second attack, I lost my leg. They visited me in the hospital. They had no intention of killing me. They were delivering a message to me. Shut up. And that was the message that came through loud and clear. And two men who identified themselves with identification cards who belonged to the Defense Investigative Service, which is really the Defense Intelligence Agency, asked me if I was going to shut up or they were going to have to do it right. And I told them, I said, you don't have to worry about me. I'm going to be a good little boy for the rest of my life. And, yeah, I'm going to shut my mouth. And I did for 16 years. Kept silent until I saw this UFO magazine in a bookstore which indicated that they had implemented the contingency plan called Majestic. But if you want to know what I think the reason is, I believe that there are several. One, they've had a plan that's been enforced since the 40s to debunk, ridicule, destroy anybody, whoever talks about these subjects. And the public has been thoroughly indoctrinated that if you talk about any of these things that I'm talking about, you're just another nut. So the public, by and large, doesn't pay any attention to it. So in that sense, I'm not a threat. If the president had come on television and said, hey, this is what's going on, then they would have listened and they'd pay attention to it. But people like me, they perceive me as being just another Looney Bin fruitcake nut, which I assure you I'm not. But that's the perception that they've been brainwashed into believing. And so that's what they believe. Number two, I have so much in front of the public from the very beginning when I began to talk. And that's how I protected myself, or at least that's what I thought would protect me. And so far, it's proven to be right, was that if I got literally in front of the public overnight, in front of a large public, that they wouldn't do anything to me because it would substantiate what it was that I'm saved. And they certainly don't want to do that, but also create a martyr. And martyrs create tremendously dangerous political movements that they don't want that either. So literally within a 24-hour period, I spent $27,000 mailing a thick packet of information all over the world to people I'd never heard of, didn't know. And we literally got some mailing lists. They just mailed the stuff all over the world. And so literally, when people opened these packages in their mailbox, it was a perfect plan because they couldn't stop it. They didn't even know I was going to do it in the first place. And since we sent it all over the world, once it was out, there's no way they could retrieve it. There's no way that I could conceive of. So literally within 24 hours, I was a public presence. And people were asking all over the world, who's Bill Cooper? Is this true? Look what I got in the mail. And just literally flipped the world over on its ear. And I've been in front of the public ever since. So I think basically those are the reasons. They don't believe that the public's really going to listen to me. And so far, that's been true. There is a small group of people all over the world who are awakening, who are beginning to understand that they've been living their life in fantasy later, and who are actively seeking the truth. But by and large, when the secret power structure says, as I put in the first chapter of my book, right out of one of their own technical labels, that a nation or world of people who do not use their intelligence are no better than animals who do not have intelligence, and thus are stakes on the table by choice and consent, they're absolutely right about the majority of people. And that's one of the things that has been an illumination to me, is that they're not always wrong. And many of their goals are the right goals, but the method that they're using to reach that goal is the wrong method. In other words, if you set out to create a perfect world where there will never be any more killing, but to reach that point, you kill two billion people, you have become what you're trying to avoid. And it can't happen that way. If you want to create a world of peace, it has to be done by people. People means. If you murder someone to destroy a murderer, you have become what it was you set out to destroy, and thus it wasn't destroyed at all. It was perpetuated by that very action. And that's what these men are doing. They rationalize everything they do so that they feel better about it. But what they are doing is becoming what it is that they want to get rid of. And the world will never be a safe place for anyone as long as there are men who do these things. Very eloquently said. Thank you. Now, your message to people, once again, is don't believe anything. How is it that the public can find this and search for this truth on their own if they can't believe anything or anyone? It's all in the public sector. It's all available to anyone who actively and diligently seeks it out. Everything that's in my book, Behold a Pale Horse, is all, everything in here, all the documents that are in here, everything that's in this book is in the public domain. Can it be substantiated? Yes. And I intentionally wrote this book not using anything that wasn't available to the public to show people that, yes, if I can find this information, so can you. I have tons of stuff that's not available to the public. But as you can see by reading this book, you don't need that stuff because what you need is available to you. public libraries are overflowing with the proof of what's really going on in the world, but nobody really utilizes it to the extent that they're able to pick this out and put it together. Another thing I've done for people is I've put it together for them so that they can see the overall picture rather than looking at small things and thinking that it's isolated. Nothing is isolated. It's all part of a big puzzle. And the puzzle is coming together. And when the puzzle is assembled, it's going to be a one-world, totalitarian, socialist government that nobody's going to like except the people that are running it. It's Hitler all over again. And the rationalization is we're going to create the world without war. The utopia. The utopia. But they will never create that utopia because they're not dealing with the problem that makes them want to create it. And that is the inherent flaw in each individual human being that makes us do the things that we do. Until that's overcome, there's never going to be a world without war or without rape or without killing or without robbery. And anybody that thinks that there is has already gone off the deep end. So the method is, here, I'm going to hold a gun to your head so you won't rape, you won't kill. That's right. Very, yes. Okay, I understand. The title of your book, Behold a Pale Horse, what significance does that have? What are you saying with this title? This title is from the book of Revelations because I have to tell you this, and you may think I'm nuts if you want to, but this is the truth. Either these men are following the book of Revelation, the book of Revelation as it is in the Bible, they're either following it, just like a plan, and bringing the prophecies in there to pass to manipulate and control those who believe in those prophecies and neutralize them, so to speak. In other words, if this is written in the Bible and God has ordained it, who am I to resist? It must come to pass. So I'm not going to try to stop it. What a perfect way to neutralize the opposition right off the bat. Or, there really is a God, and what he said was going to come to pass is coming to pass. And I named this, Behold a Pale Horse, from chapter 13 of the book of Revelations. The fourth horse, the fourth horseman of the apocalypse, is the pale horse. And I looked, and behold a pale horse, and his name that sat upon him was Death. And hell followed with him, and power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with the beasts of the earth. And that is taking place now today. The fourth horseman is riding across the world now. That's what AIDS is all about. That's what all these little brush fire wars all over the world are all about. That's what's happening. That's why cancer cures are suppressed. It's because they fully intend to kill a minimum of two billion people by the year 2000. AIDS is an invention of man. It is not a natural disease. And it has been implemented and placed into the population as a population control. And when they did it, they had the cure before they did it. And when they deem that enough people have died or been killed, they will say, we have a cure for AIDS. And everybody will be called to report to some place to get an inoculation, which is going to do two things. One, it's going to stop AIDS in its tracks. And number two, it's going to implant the device which will be able to be used to track each individual person and maybe even to control those people. That's it, folks. Be sure and tune in tomorrow night for part two of the CNN interview with me, William Cooper, which took place March 5, 1992. Good night. God bless you. Good night, Annie. Good night, Pooh. Good night, Allison. I love you. Good night. Good night. Let's go on the nuts. Don't worry, it's not crying. It's not a thing. We'll see. We'll go on the nuts. You're sleeping. You're napping. The brain you're crashing. You're melting. Stop breathing. The air has got you breathing. You're coughing and sneezing. Matt knows that they lie. They trick you into thinking. The world is really fine. But they're lying. To the people, another cover of dirty slime. The alien or the enemy. More white stuff coming from your Jiminy. Now Jiminy, the cricket. You don't like it. You don't dig it. You want to pick it. Then there's Barbie in her wedding dress. She's not impressed. She's just messing around. Evolution. Revolution. Revolution. Revolution of the atmosphere. Fear. Fear. Nooks and winter. Nooks and fun. Nooks and ice for everyone. No more lovers. Only fear. No more flowers. Only tears. No more clarity. Austerity. Regularity. All fucked up by bitter cold. It's you fool man who's getting sold. All cold. Uranium. Or Netonia. They mix it up. They feed it to the neighborhood. Into your water pipe. Negrium. That's okay. They try to hide the bag. Now your jerk is ruining poison. I love that. You're kicking back. Put on the nuts. Put on the nuts. Hey. You're gross. Put on the nuts. Don't work my trash. Radioactive. I can't hurt. Put on the nuts. Put on the nuts. Hey. You're gross. Put on the nuts. Idiot dance. Put on the nuts. The natural right is mine. It's not mine. No more goofy. Kill your pirate laser. Go back to the end of the line. Teach your life. The misconception. Hometown rhythm. Clean your section. All the children. Damn the scissors. Don't pretend you have no wisdom. You can make the right decision. Carbon creatures. Get along. The fuel is here. We're the endless song. Oh, so simple. You're a rebel. Make a rebel. In this way. Kept alive. We all survive. Humans one for all. Play them hard. The testing tale. Examine what went wrong. Reimpose the master. I'm dead. It ain't all gone. Live together. The four each other. Make the whole of your planet. But clear the sky. No raindrops die. When all blood creatures learn to try. When all blood creatures find their eyes. Uranium. They tonium. They mix it up at night. They feed it to the animal. Into your water pipes. Uranium. Petroleum. They drag. Yeah. In fact. Deliver is living poison. Plants love. They're just to reject. You eat nuts. Put on the mass. Lift on the mass. Lift on the mass. Lift on the mass. Ready? I just broke. Lift on the mass. Lift on the mass. Lift on the mass. Don't work I'm tried. Lift on the mass. Lift on the mass. Lift on the mass. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.